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Post by Guest 11/29/2011, 10:09 pm

Long weekend sorry

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Post by MudRaider 11/29/2011, 10:10 pm

piratex wrote:See I neever new how to make it happen without the nisan stuff. Wagonner axles would be the best route that are strongest of the options. If I were to do this it would take some time to do because cash for a sas build is not on my most needed.

Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Sounds like somebody needs to get their priorities straight.

Razz JK. Wouldn't that be cheaper than going with the all-Nissan list? Hey, you Jeep guys need to chime in here. What is he looking at $$$$$$ to do it with Jeeper parts all the way to the transfer case. He needs something to work for/to!!!
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Post by Guest 11/29/2011, 10:25 pm

Just a rough estimate but here it goes...
Front axle/ new gears/ brakes=$1200
t-case from salvage yard=$200
steering components=$200
springs and perchs=$200
driveshafts= I dunno, ask dirty
Shifter and linkage= fill in blank
Anything I forgot?

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Post by MudRaider 11/29/2011, 10:29 pm

Thanks for the vote of confidence Chris. I've been thinking of those guys at the Christman Mud Bog, especially this thing;
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Did you guys get a chance to see this thing up close? It looks like he took a stock truck and just put a mud bogging chassis underneath. i know that is oversimplified, but basically it really is that simple. You know, disconnected it at the transfer case and took the stock drivetrain out and put in the hi-rise stuff.
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Post by Guest 11/29/2011, 10:33 pm

When it's not mine it's really simple. But I seem to overcomplicate things and overthink it when it comes to mine.

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Post by JaxWranglerUnlimtd 11/29/2011, 10:41 pm

I know someone with some waggy axles. Last I heard he wanted $250 for the front with drivers side diff.
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Post by Guest 11/29/2011, 10:45 pm

Hey chunkie, here's a start. One part at a time

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Post by MudRaider 11/29/2011, 10:48 pm

cbarton wrote:When it's not mine it's really simple. But I seem to overcomplicate things and overthink it when it comes to mine.

There is more to it than the base parts. DOM tubing, Johnny joints, steel for the mounts, all that. I get that. But that has got to be stronger, and definitely more durable than the stock Titan stuff. And surely easier to find. Look at the previous ^ post. Front end solved.
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Post by MudRaider 11/29/2011, 10:52 pm

cbarton wrote:Hey chunkie, here's a start. One part at a time

And you know there is nothing wrong with doing it that way. It took me 5 months to gather all the parts, but when I did my first S-10 V-8 conversion, it only took me 2 weeks from the time I took the hood off till I gave the ex the keys and had her get me a refill on my Super Big Gulp. So not a bad way to do it. I'm doing it in my head right now for the V-6 conversion in the MudRaider. there are like 5-7 done in the world that I know of. So if you can think it Chuck, it can be done. definitely glad to make it so.
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Post by piratex 11/29/2011, 10:58 pm

Let me finish paying it off before the sas at least haha Smile
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Post by Guest 11/29/2011, 11:00 pm

I've had mine for thirteen years, you never stop paying for it.

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Post by MudRaider 11/29/2011, 11:01 pm

piratex wrote:Let me finish paying it off before the sas at least haha Smile



that's cool. Gather the parts. The day after it is paid for we'll start the SAS.
Suspect Or Find a cheap beater and we can start sooner!
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Post by piratex 11/29/2011, 11:02 pm

Hahaha I think yalls thinking
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Post by MudRaider 11/29/2011, 11:15 pm

piratex wrote:Hahaha I think yalls thinking




Huh? Question Question Question Question
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Post by piratex 11/30/2011, 9:07 am

Like yalls thinkin*
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Post by Nick@HappyTrails4x4 11/30/2011, 9:46 am

MudRaider wrote:
piratex wrote:See I neever new how to make it happen without the nisan stuff. Wagonner axles would be the best route that are strongest of the options. If I were to do this it would take some time to do because cash for a sas build is not on my most needed.

Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Sounds like somebody needs to get their priorities straight.

Razz JK. Wouldn't that be cheaper than going with the all-Nissan list? Hey, you Jeep guys need to chime in here. What is he looking at $$$$$$ to do it with Jeeper parts all the way to the transfer case. He needs something to work for/to!!!

waggy's would be nice under an Xterra
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Post by MudRaider 11/30/2011, 11:07 am

Nick@HappyTrails4x4 wrote:

waggy's would be nice under an Xterra

I'm thinking correctly on this aren't I? The vehicle has no clue what it is riding on. All we have to do is get the power from the engine to the transmission to the transfer case. I'm thinking if he gets rid of the Nissan transfer case that will get rid of a lot of complicated electrical components. Especially making the transfer case manual. It would really help if you could get rid of the electrical transmission, but there are considerations for it mounting to the engine.

Nissan engine + Nissan 4WD transmission + New Process transfer case + whatever axlesThat would allow all kinds of gearing in the axles, upgrading gears in the TC. 35's+ would be no problem.
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Post by piratex 11/30/2011, 1:25 pm

Well stock gearing guys are runnin 35's. But id like to got to a 4.1 gearing to allow for easier crawling not to mention id love to be able to stick a 37 or bigger maybe have a set of crawler 37's with some mud 40 or 44's. My wallet is gunna hate y'all but hey ya gotta enjoy life right.

On a side note I showed my wife a picture of a sas xterra and she said she wouldn't mind being like that Very Happy
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Post by MudRaider 11/30/2011, 2:02 pm

piratex wrote:Well stock gearing guys are runnin 35's. But id like to got to a 4.1 gearing to allow for easier crawling not to mention id love to be able to stick a 37 or bigger maybe have a set of crawler 37's with some mud 40 or 44's. My wallet is gunna hate y'all but hey ya gotta enjoy life right.

On a side note I showed my wife a picture of a sas xterra and she said she wouldn't mind being like that Very Happy

That helps when doing mods, having spousal support!
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Post by Nick@HappyTrails4x4 11/30/2011, 7:20 pm

MudRaider wrote:
Nick@HappyTrails4x4 wrote:

waggy's would be nice under an Xterra

I'm thinking correctly on this aren't I? The vehicle has no clue what it is riding on. All we have to do is get the power from the engine to the transmission to the transfer case. I'm thinking if he gets rid of the Nissan transfer case that will get rid of a lot of complicated electrical components. Especially making the transfer case manual. It would really help if you could get rid of the electrical transmission, but there are considerations for it mounting to the engine.

Nissan engine + Nissan 4WD transmission + New Process transfer case + whatever axlesThat would allow all kinds of gearing in the axles, upgrading gears in the TC. 35's+ would be no problem.

yea, mostly. although stuff like ABS and traction control will no longer work and will throw a dash light (if applicable). other wise it doesnt matter what axles go under it.


now as for the transfer case, he could check out something like advance adapters and see if they make something to adapt the nissan transmission to the NP or Dana transfercases
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Post by piratex 11/30/2011, 8:26 pm

Your right I would be throwing codes left and righ, abs lights, vehicle dynamic control lights, slip lights.
Tpms lights. That's why I would like to get a jeek axles with a dana t case with electronic shifting into 4wd which allow me to still have abs and all that working and not throwing lights and codes. But I would either need a titan pathy or xterra off road/pro 4x edition rear axle to have a e locker
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Post by MudRaider 11/30/2011, 9:18 pm

Leave the light off that spot so it doesn't show. ABS? How did we ever survive without it? Rolling Eyes Are you really going to be able to gear it the way you want with Nissan parts in there? You have to decide if you are going to remain brand loyal and empty-walleted, or build it up super strong with the performance like you want, and just a bit less empty-walleted. Yeah, I made that word up - empty-walleted. Shocked
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Post by DIRTY 11/30/2011, 11:34 pm

trade it in and get one 4x4 thats your cheapest way and fastested!!!!! all this talk about big dreams and it all sounds really expensive and time consuming ..lol lol! jk keep the dreams coming
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Post by MudRaider 11/30/2011, 11:55 pm

DIRTY wrote:trade it in and get one 4x4 thats your cheapest way and fastested!!!!! all this talk about big dreams and it all sounds really expensive and time consuming ..lol lol! jk keep the dreams coming

Yep, that would definitely be the fastest way to get a 4 wheeler. Sell that thing, have all kinds of cash, find a decent Cherokee (You need one of those because of children, right?) for a decent price, use the rest for better parts, and take Momma to Ruth Chris and all will be right with the world.
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Post by 4x4troy 12/1/2011, 12:15 pm

he is a nissan guy...nothing wrong with that at all.....i am in the parts gathering process now for my sas and soa. i am putting a toyota axle under the front of my passport. picked up axle yesterday....the rest will come as i can get it.
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