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Post by piratex on 12/9/2011, 4:44 pm

okay yall i just found this locker for sale and was wondering if ysll knew anything about it


https://www.4x4parts.com/nissan/xterra-spartan-locker-p-6077.html
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Post by piratex on 12/9/2011, 4:47 pm

or this one. are they electronic lockers or are they like locking hubs?
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Post by piratex on 12/9/2011, 4:48 pm

https://www.4x4parts.com/nissan/xterra-mechanical-locker-p-6385.html
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Post by Nick@HappyTrails4x4 on 12/9/2011, 8:03 pm

piratex wrote:okay yall i just found this locker for sale and was wondering if ysll knew anything about it


https://www.4x4parts.com/nissan/xterra-spartan-locker-p-6077.html

that is a lunchbox locker

it is a mechanical locker that engages when torque is applied and released when you are not on the gas, so it makes it easy to turn.

they work great, easy to install, and are pretty reliable, and apply power to both tires anytime you need it. and they can be installed without removing the carrier in most cases


the downsides are. they can be noisy, you will hear a ratcheting sound while going around corners. and they will eventually need to be rebuilt with a new spring and pin kit, but it takes a LONG time to wear down the springs. and the kits are cheap ($20-30)


they are well worth it IMO, though


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Post by Nick@HappyTrails4x4 on 12/9/2011, 8:06 pm

piratex wrote:https://www.4x4parts.com/nissan/xterra-mechanical-locker-p-6385.html

and that one looks like an Eaton locker, it could be a full time locker but there description is kind of lacking.


and it replaces the factory carrier, so it will require re setting up the backlash and wear pattern with new shims.
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Post by MudRaider on 12/9/2011, 8:32 pm

The expensive one is also forged, which might be overkill, depending what you do to/with the motor. The second ones description is really lame, I would guess it's that way so you call in and talk with them.
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Post by piratex on 12/11/2011, 2:31 pm

Neither one is what I want. I'm trying to find a regular electronic locker
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Post by Nick@HappyTrails4x4 on 12/11/2011, 4:38 pm

what about trying to find a used one out of maybe a rubicon d44?
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Post by piratex on 12/11/2011, 5:11 pm

Not sure where to look fo jeep parts. But what about my gearing don't I need to find matching gears or just re gear the front to match the new locker or does it not matter at all. No clue
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Post by Nick@HappyTrails4x4 on 12/11/2011, 9:03 pm

piratex wrote:Not sure where to look fo jeep parts. But what about my gearing don't I need to find matching gears or just re gear the front to match the new locker or does it not matter at all. No clue

craigslist is a good start, or search the classifieds on places like Jeepforum. gearing will need to be the same so you dont destroy your tcase.

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Post by MudRaider on 12/11/2011, 9:18 pm

Hey pirat X, you know the rear end doesn't particularly have to come out of a Nissan. if you can find something that fits your needs with a locker and the gearing you want, we can put it under there. Welding new spring perches, speed sensors if needed, can all be adapted to work under there. The rest of the drivetrain has no idea what is transferring the power to the ground. So if you find something with 5 something gears and an locker for a decent price, think seriously about it.
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Post by Lil Pepè on 12/11/2011, 9:28 pm

Looks like (Xterra Spartan Locker) is the easiest way for you to obtain a locker. Im just not sure on the quality of the product, there are a few other opitions out there just a little more costly.
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Post by 4x4troy on 12/11/2011, 10:04 pm

spartan is a great cheaper locker. i had a few and they work great. had a friend that swore by them.......they are the knock off of aussie lockers.

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Post by piratex on 12/11/2011, 11:53 pm

Well I want to stay away from a air compressed locker for now. I'm going to see if I can find what gearing I have and try to find a 44 with the same gearing
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Post by MudRaider on 12/12/2011, 12:02 am

piratex wrote:Well I want to stay away from a air compressed locker for now. I'm going to see if I can find what gearing I have and try to find a 44 with the same gearing

Why not go steeper on the gearing, then get some bigger tires and that will put you up in the air further. Giving you more ground clearance like cbarton's Cherokee. Definitely a lot easier to get around if your rear isn't dragging the ground.
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Post by piratex on 12/12/2011, 12:06 am

I have 3.69 gearing stock
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Post by MudRaider on 12/12/2011, 12:12 am

piratex wrote:I have 3.69 gearing stock

What an odd ratio for such a ride. Standard gear in the Mitsu's is 4.63. I guess the tranny has some steep gears in it too make up for it. Some 4,11's would really wake up the performance of it. A Dana with that in it should be easy to find.
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Post by piratex on 12/12/2011, 12:16 am

What would be easy to find the 4.1 or the 3.6
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Post by MudRaider on 12/12/2011, 12:21 am

Dana 44 with a 4.11
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Post by Nick@HappyTrails4x4 on 12/12/2011, 9:21 am

373's would probably be fine
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Post by 4x4troy on 12/12/2011, 10:51 am

the passport is stock with 4:30's and a d44...might be a good option to find on at a jy. just find one with the G80 code on the underhood sticker.

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Post by piratex on 12/12/2011, 11:33 am

And what will I do about my tranny having 3.69 garing
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Post by 4x4troy on 12/12/2011, 6:17 pm

your tranny depending on how many gears it has in the area of 4-6 gears. your first gear might be the 3.69 and that is really not that low for a heavy 6 cylinder truck with a tire in the 30" range.and that only the first gear,second,third,forth and fifth are still to come with fifth being an od will a geat of somewhere around 0.75-0.80. second will be in the 2:80 range,3rd high 1's low 2's and 4th close to 1:1. your axle gears is what you want to be low...high numerically... your truck i believe is a 5 spd maunal....4:30 gears in rear would be awesome. great pulling power and good fuel economey and highway driving will be good to.

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Post by piratex on 12/12/2011, 7:03 pm

Its actually a 6speed manual. And now I have a 33. Just got the new meats
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Post by Lil Pepè on 12/12/2011, 8:21 pm

piratex wrote:Its actually a 6speed manual. And now I have a 33. Just got the new meats


I think running stock gears is where its at, and finding your gearing in your tranfer case as in a doubler.That way you get the best of both worlds. I am just saying if its your daily driver it dosent seem practical to give up your highway gear
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