Ignition electrical problems
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Ignition electrical problems
My starter solenoid went bad so I changed it.... but When I went to crank it I noticed that it only cranked for 1/2 second and now nothing (no start). Then I noticed that 1 of the 5 wires connected to the solenoid side where the main battery wire goes was not connected (My fault and I believe touching the grounded tub). Now no start nothing.. I am willing to pay to figure this out but I am on a budget.
After this I changed the Ignition switch as I thought that it might have been shorted but nothing. And there are no fuses just old school link fused wires.
It’s a 1987 YJ 4.2 (no computer) / Weber 32/36 / automatic trans.
Anyone good w/ this ignition electrical stuff? Could I have shorted the new Starter Solenoid ?
After this I changed the Ignition switch as I thought that it might have been shorted but nothing. And there are no fuses just old school link fused wires.
It’s a 1987 YJ 4.2 (no computer) / Weber 32/36 / automatic trans.
Anyone good w/ this ignition electrical stuff? Could I have shorted the new Starter Solenoid ?
Pitbullguiller- Hardcore member
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
There is a good possibility you did short it out. I would just take the new one back where I got it n say it doesn't work. Hopefully they'll give u a new one no ?'s ask. Goodluck.
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
JaxWranglerUnlimtd wrote:There is a good possibility you did short it out. I would just take the new one back where I got it n say it doesn't work. Hopefully they'll give u a new one no ?'s ask. Goodluck.
I have lifetime warranty on it from Orilleys Auto Parts and I am picking up the new one tonight and will post my results.
Thanks!
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
I just had the same issue with mine and it turned out to be the ICM. Since i put that on i havent had any issues.
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
mmcgorty wrote:I just had the same issue with mine and it turned out to be the ICM. Since i put that on i havent had any issues.
Thanks man!
Question: Was your engine turning over with the key on the start position? Mine is not even turning over and All fuses are good.
Melvin at Happy Trails re-wired mine by-passing the computer. Thats means I no longer have the computer in my YJ... but I do believe that the ICM (Ignition Module) is still connected. But its about 100 bucks. Where did you get yours from and how much?... if you dont mind me asking.
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
Yeah mine wouldnt do anything. I think i picked it up at autozone for 45.00 but i would shop around.
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
mmcgorty wrote:Yeah mine wouldnt do anything. I think i picked it up at autozone for 45.00 but i would shop around.
Thanks again, Matt!
I just found it with lifetime warranty at autozone for $34.99. I miss driving my jeep and cant wait to get her running again!
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
Trust me i know the feeling, im waiting on some bolts so i can get mine back on the road.
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
1987 JEEP WRANGLER 4.2L 258cid L6 : Ignition : Ignition Control Module (ICM) Wiki Price
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STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # LX203T T-Series
w/ OEM # w/ OE No. 8933004065;
$15.29
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UNITED IGNITION WIRE Part # M184
$18.58
Add Part
KEMPARTS Part # E302
Ignition Control Module/Unit [Wholesaler Closeout -- 30 Day Warranty]
$20.79
Add Part
KEMPARTS Part # E302X
Ignition Control Module/Unit [Wholesaler Closeout -- 30 Day Warranty]
$20.79
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AUTO-TUNE Part # E313D
Ignition Control Module/Unit [Wholesaler Closeout -- 30 Day Warranty] (Only 10 Remaining)
$21.79
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OMIX-ADA Part # 1725202
$27.79
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STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # LX203 {Click Info Link for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers12334611, 19110488, 3230451, 33004065, 8933004065, D6AB12A199A1B, D6AB12A199A2B, D6AE12A199A1A, D6AE12A199A1B, D6AE12A199A1C, D6AE12A199A2A, D6AE12A199A2B, D6AE12A199A2C, D6AE12A199AA, D6AZ12A199A, D6AZ12A199B, D6TE12A199A1A, D6TZ12A199A, D7AZ12A199B, D8AE12A199A1E, D8VE12A199A1A, D8VE12A199A1B, D8VE12A199A1C, D8VE12A199A2A, D8VE12A199A2B, D8VE12A199A2C, D9VZ12A199A, DY184, DY184A, DY184B, DY184C, DY184CDP, DY198, DY337, DY611, DY683, E1FZ12A199A, E8PF12A199AA, E8PF12A199AB, E9VZ12A199A, E9YZ12A199A, F1910, F2PF12A199AA, F2PZ12A199A, F2PZ12A199AA, J3230451}
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
1987 JEEP WRANGLER 4.2L 258cid L6
Ignition : Ignition Control Module (ICM)Related Parts
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # LX203T T-Series
w/ OEM # w/ OE No. 8933004065;
$15.29 $15.29
Subtotal $15.29
Shipping: Ground (1 to 5 business days) ($8.52)
Total $23.81
Ignition : Ignition Control Module (ICM)Related Parts
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # LX203T T-Series
w/ OEM # w/ OE No. 8933004065;
$15.29 $15.29
Subtotal $15.29
Shipping: Ground (1 to 5 business days) ($8.52)
Total $23.81
Re: Ignition electrical problems
4x4troy wrote:1987 JEEP WRANGLER 4.2L 258cid L6
Ignition : Ignition Control Module (ICM)Related Parts
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # LX203T T-Series
w/ OEM # w/ OE No. 8933004065;
$15.29 $15.29
Subtotal $15.29
Shipping: Ground (1 to 5 business days) ($8.52)
Total $23.81
Troy, that is the best price so far! Thanks man!
I called Oreillys Auto back and they had quoted me the PCM and not the ICM that’s why the originally said 112.00 but theirs is actually 27.99 w/ lifetime warranty and I am picking it up tonight cause I can’t wait any longer.
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
I like Rock Auto and all, but for $4 to get it right away is definitely worth it. i mostly have used them for wheel bearings, all the engine stuff for the Shogun. Also all the brake parts. Basically planned maintenance stuff.
Re: Ignition electrical problems
Yep, never been disappointed by any of the parts I have gotten from them.
Re: Ignition electrical problems
It was not the ICM.
So far Ive replaced ICM Ignition Module, Ignition Switch, Starter Solenoid, replaced Starter to battery 4 guage cable, and tested starter at the auto parts and still cant figure it out. Does not even try to crank, like dead! Battery is a brand new 34 Optima blue top. I am thinking there is a short somewhere in the ignition wires.
So far Ive replaced ICM Ignition Module, Ignition Switch, Starter Solenoid, replaced Starter to battery 4 guage cable, and tested starter at the auto parts and still cant figure it out. Does not even try to crank, like dead! Battery is a brand new 34 Optima blue top. I am thinking there is a short somewhere in the ignition wires.
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
R u getting spark? Are u getting fuel? These are the first things u should've checked if u didn't already. Sounds like lack of spark but always need to be sure. Did u do a continuity test on the ignition system to make sure power is coming in n going out? Do your headlights or radio work? I know u said battery is new but did u check the voltage coming out? Maybe it needs a jump cause not enough juice. Maybe u burned a cell in battery.
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
Can you just the starter sol. with like a screw dirver and get it to turn over? That will cut out most the wiring and be straight batt to starter. If it turns you know those items are good. If not you know your problem is somewhere in there. What part of town do you live in?
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
89WhiteXJ wrote:Can you just the starter sol. with like a screw dirver and get it to turn over? That will cut out most the wiring and be straight batt to starter. If it turns you know those items are good. If not you know your problem is somewhere in there. What part of town do you live in?
It will crank right up if I jump the starter. But its not the Solenoid cause I have changed 2 times in the last week. I am in Mandarin by the way.
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Re: Ignition electrical problems
Im sure. Did u check to see if when u turn the key over u are getting power to the solenoid.
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89WhiteXJ wrote:Im sure. Did u check to see if when u turn the key over u are getting power to the solenoid.
Checking that tonight or tomorrow.
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Cool. It can not be that hard to track down.
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